MAG Rope

tinypanmilk

I really don't like the MAG Rope. It absolutely ruins the finale mission,

where there should be dramatic climbs and unbelievable parkour to reach the top of an atrium, not just being dragged up by a rope.

There are so many missions that could have been better without the **** grappling hook. Half of the time, swinging with it sends you off track or falling to your death because you can't aim the right way. It also really ruins momentum. Does anybody else feel the same?

tinypanmilk

That says d*a*m*n grappling hook, just to clarify.

Loaf112

Might wanna mark this as spoilers if you're gonna talk about final mission. I avoided reading your post, I havent finished the story yet but clicked on the link coz it was titalled 'MAG Rope' so assumed it was gonna discuss it in general

tinypanmilk

Loaf112 wrote: »

Might wanna mark this as spoilers if you're gonna talk about final mission. I avoided reading your post, I havent finished the story yet but clicked on the link coz it was titalled 'MAG Rope' so assumed it was gonna discuss it in general

Oh gosh, sorry! I didn't think about that. Thanks for pointing that out, I'll mark it now

nsmckinney

Yeah I kind of agree. I think the rope's swinging feature is fine, but the pull-up feature i sort of hate. Also, the MAG Rope pull down feature is pointless. It could have been replaced with a slow let down instead.

Loaf112

After finishing the game I see your point about the final mission. It just felt rushed and lazy game design. Some missions towards the end of the game did a brilliant job of stringing together everything you'd learned. But then the last mission, it felt like they could feel the end of the game approaching and just wanted to get it wrapped up. Was such an anticlimax to everything they'd built up

MichaelT

I finished the game for the 3rd time a few hours ago and I was actually thinking the same thing! Haha what a coincidence. I thought there should have been more parkour and less pull up but whatever.

PiTM0N

And let's not forget that the whole mechanic is extremely counter intuitive, as you can only use the rope from certain areas, not from a set distance from the rope's intended target. What is even more infuriating, that many mag rope swings are 1 way only.

The whole mechanic feels really poor sometimes, but I can see why it was added, it has its shining moments too.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, that - for me - it also feels wonky to use. It's probably due to while swinging your horizontal speed seems to be a set amount. I completely agree on the final level part, felt very underdeveloped . In the previous game, I didn't had such feelings, despite using elevators for a big vertical distance.

GeoffreyOmega

What makes no sense to me are the areas you can use it.
There's always this red prop that looks like one of portal's robot. I don't like the design and it is way too off to why there would be this thing here and not somewhere else. I can smell the script here forcing your hand. The swigging idea was nice but the pull up completely ruines the experience I think. I think they tried the Spider Man approach but it ain't a spiderman game.

Loaf112

PiTM0N wrote: »

And let's not forget that the whole mechanic is extremely counter intuitive, as you can only use the rope from certain areas, not from a set distance from the rope's intended target. What is even more infuriating, that many mag rope swings are 1 way only.

The whole mechanic feels really poor sometimes, but I can see why it was added, it has its shining moments too.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, that - for me - it also feels wonky to use. It's probably due to while swinging your horizontal speed seems to be a set amount. I completely agree on the final level part, felt very underdeveloped . In the previous game, I didn't had such feelings, despite using elevators for a big vertical distance.

I can see why they added it. For an open world games centered around rooftops there was always going to be instances where the gap between two buildings was too big to rely on the parkour mechanics, so they needed a solution. As for your comment about the previous game, I think the elevators were there purely to disguise level loading rather than cutting potential parkour sequences.

MichaelT

GeoffreyOmega wrote: »

What makes no sense to me are the areas you can use it.
There's always this red prop that looks like one of portal's robot. I don't like the design and it is way too off to why there would be this thing here and not somewhere else. I can smell the script here forcing your hand. The swigging idea was nice but the pull up completely ruines the experience I think. I think they tried the Spider Man approach but it ain't a spiderman game.

It's supposed to be a security camera, the thing that you attach the MAG rope to.

tinypanmilk

MichaelT wrote: »

GeoffreyOmega wrote: »

What makes no sense to me are the areas you can use it.
There's always this red prop that looks like one of portal's robot. I don't like the design and it is way too off to why there would be this thing here and not somewhere else. I can smell the script here forcing your hand. The swigging idea was nice but the pull up completely ruines the experience I think. I think they tried the Spider Man approach but it ain't a spiderman game.

It's supposed to be a security camera, the thing that you attach the MAG rope to.

In that case why can't we attach our MAG rope to more security cameras? There are cameras all over the place and yet we're very limited in where we can use it.

Imaproshaman

Loaf112 wrote: »

PiTM0N wrote: »

And let's not forget that the whole mechanic is extremely counter intuitive, as you can only use the rope from certain areas, not from a set distance from the rope's intended target. What is even more infuriating, that many mag rope swings are 1 way only.

The whole mechanic feels really poor sometimes, but I can see why it was added, it has its shining moments too.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, that - for me - it also feels wonky to use. It's probably due to while swinging your horizontal speed seems to be a set amount. I completely agree on the final level part, felt very underdeveloped . In the previous game, I didn't had such feelings, despite using elevators for a big vertical distance.

I can see why they added it. For an open world games centered around rooftops there was always going to be instances where the gap between two buildings was too big to rely on the parkour mechanics, so they needed a solution. As for your comment about the previous game, I think the elevators were there purely to disguise level loading rather than cutting potential parkour sequences.

It's funny you mention that. I agree, I just thought it was funny.